The Forgotten Alternate Draft of the STAR WARS Holiday Special…

The Forgotten Alternate Draft of the STAR WARS Holiday Special…

– Happy Life Day, you wonderful nerds, and especially to all
of you new subscribers we’ve been picking up lately, you guys are the best, so allow
me to make you suffer a bit. I’m sure a lot of you
remember the horrible Star Wars Holiday Special from 1978 that makes everyone
attached to the franchise deeply, deeply uncomfortable. Not that it’s much better for us fans. Oh God, that is, that is
gonna live in my nightmares. The special’s legacy as a
stain on the Star Wars brand is both invisible and ever-present. It’s like a 98-minute fever dream of sketches, musical numbers, cartoons, and Wookies incoherently gargling. If you’ve never seen it, you wanna know what I’m talking about? Here’s a taste of what
you’re, uh, missing? That feels too generous of a term. Anyway, here’s this. (silly music) – I knew you’d like it. – Yep, yeah, all of that, that was real. Every one of those clips was a real, the Holiday Special is like
a cacophony of nonsense cobbled together into an anxious nightmare where the only appropriate response is, “No, no, no, no, please don’t, no, WHY?” And that is exactly what we’re gonna try to answer today: Why? Right. Why was this cringey creation made at all? Was there any way it could have been good? Or, at least not terrible? Well, a recently discovered
alternate treatment of the special reveals the Star Wars story that was almost made instead. A version that we never quite got. So, the Star Wars Holiday
Special, let’s talk about it. Featuring the original cast and including the creative forces
behind the original film, the special is a series of
weird Star Wars-ish vignettes strung together by Chewbacca’s
family, as they await for him to return from his adventures, so they can celebrate Life Day together. Life Day is an incredibly
momentous holiday. The importance of which
is rivaled only by my inability to explain what it is. I, I don’t, something with robes? Some sort of, Wookie cult,
ritual? I don’t know. The whole special is
honestly, highly forgettable and awkward, but it does feature exactly two things, of notes, you know, other than providing
unnecessary lyrics for your favorite Star Wars
jingles. That happened. So, one, it was the first
on-screen appearance of the Wookie home world, Kashyyyk, or however you pronounce that. And two, it also introduced
the world to Boba Fett, albeit in cartoon form,
a year and a half before The Empire Strikes Back, but
the special is more known for its otherworldly oddities, like Jefferson Starship in a music box, or galactic cooking segment, or
the original Star Wars cast looking and acting like
someone slipped something real strong into their drinks right before rolling the camera. There is no denying that it
is uncomfortable to watch. But at one point, the
Star Wars Holiday Special was shaping up to be a
good time on television. So, what happened, and
how did it all go wrong, and who’s responsible? I know that Star Wars is
a cultural phenomenon now, but obviously, wasn’t always that way. When the film first premiered
in 1977 it was surprise hit, it was an idea nobody believed in. With a production
everybody wanted to forget, and yet despite doubts and disbelievers it became the biggest film of its time. Summoning an attack of
clones, so to speak, copycat sci-fi and space
fantasy film started popping up left and right. Attempting to capitalize on
the success of Star Wars. 20th Century Fox couldn’t
lay down and let imitators make money off of that hype, true they already had a
sequel planned, under the exhilarating, tentative
title “Star Wars Two.” But that was years away
from being released it takes time to make a Star Wars movie and the higher-ups at Fox
and the Lucas camp believed, three years between
films was a bit too long to keep audiences waiting. So, in 1978, CBS approached
the studio with this idea for a hasty effort to keep
the public’s attention. A Star Wars TV event. Now they could’ve done like
a super cool world-building vignette of life within the
galaxy far, far away right? A side story, or spin-off to further show what life is like in
the Star Wars universe, and I mean, I guess that’s
kind of what some parts were about, but the final
result was much more akin to a variety show, which was
probably not the best idea. You see, American television
audiences were kind of getting tired of the variety-show
format during the late 70s nearly all of them had ended
production around this time. Sonny & Cher, The Carol Burnett
Show, et cetera, and yet everyone despite all this,
decided to move forward with the Star Wars variety show. What could possibly go wrong? Now to their credit, they didn’t initially phone-in the production. The special assembled
a dream team of comedy and variety show writers and producers to make this Star Wars
holiday event a reality. Legends of the field who knew
exactly what they were doing and tried desperately to make
their variety show stand out. The main cast was all set to
appear, the animation company Nelvana, was brought on to
create the cartoon segment that introduced Boba Fett, easily the highlight of the entire special. So many advertisers jumped
on board that the initial one hour event, was stretched into two. George Lucas who was totally
on board with this idea, was the one who suggested
centering the story around Chewbacca’s family. You see, Lucas loves to recycle any and all, ideas and concepts
that come into his mind, and he especially loves the Wookies so, when their home world
of Kashyyyk was rejected from appearing in Empire Strikes Back, he went out of his way
to make it a reality in some capacity. Lucas was also the one
who thought up Life Day but he took things a step further. According to the official
production notes, a 40 page Wookie Bible
was created at Lucasfilm with an insane amount of detail regarding the lifestyle
of the furry species, including, how they reproduce. Which seems, at best,
irrelevant but kudos for going the extra mile there George. Lucas also reportedly
told one of the writers that Han Solo was married to a Wookie. It was never explained
in the Holiday Special but I wanted you guys to know about it because it’s been haunting my thoughts and I don’t want to be alone. With everyone on the same
page in terms of Wookie mating series conceptual artist Ralph McQuarrie, who designed everything
from Darth Vader to C3PO, illustrated Kashyyyk concept arts and provided the names of
each Wookie family member, including Chewie’s son,
Lumpy, how adorable. To translate McQuarrie’s
art onto the screen, huge, beautiful 360 degree
sets were built for the event. It seemed like everything was shaping up to be genuinely awesome. And here’s the really interesting thing, if this Holiday Special took off, it would serve as the basis
for a Star Wars TV show. Imagine this as the
pilot to the very first Star Wars television series. (clicking sound) I am all in. Well this is when things
started going poorly. In trying to bring Star Wars to TV, there quickly became a
contentious mismatch of film and television that did
not blend together at all. Probably the best example comes from the initial director David Acomba. Acomba was hired on to
take over the project just as George Lucas was departing to focus on Empire Strikes Back. Acomba was used to working
in film but he didn’t really like, or understand
the television atmosphere. Most of the Star Wars special
was shot like a sitcom, multiple cameras shooting all at once, long slow days on the
same set over and over. It was driving him crazy. As one camera operator recalled quote, end quote. The notoriously high strung
Acomba left the production after filming just a few scenes he was replaced by TV producer
and director Steve Binder, or Bai-nder, I’m gonna say Binder because who’s gonna stop me? Our boy, Binder here
had a bit of a challenge in front of him. You remember those big
360 degree sets that were built for this special? Yeah, turns out a crew made up of mostly television creatives,
found it pretty difficult to shoot anything in a closed-off set. As Binder explained quote, end quote. Another problem with the
special was a bit more elitist. At the time, Hollywood
actors wouldn’t do TV gigs because it wasn’t as, glamorous or sophisticated, or whatever. Harrison Ford didn’t want to be there, Mark Hamill only did it for George Lucas, and Carrie Fisher signed
on under the condition that she’d be able to do this. ♪ To dream, to grow, to trust, to love ♪ – Yeah, she wanted to do that. So, we have a crew that wasn’t prepared, and a cast that didn’t want to be there. With that recipe the
production was actually as bad as you would
expect, and somehow worse? At one point associate producer Rita Scott was walking around the set
wringing her hands like a, totally calm person, asking
sensible questions like, are we gonna get out of here alive? Sounds dramatic, but uh, it’s actually a pretty sensible concern. You know that whole sequence in the cantina with Bea Arthur? (sings) Yeah, that one. The day that scene was being filmed co-writer Pat Proft took his son down to the studio to visit productions. Proft’s son was a huge Star Wars fan and visiting the cantina would be a dream come true to any nerd. The Holiday Special was
filmed during an especially warm part of the year
in the Los Angeles area and you might notice the many
alien extras in this scene that were heavily costumed under
the hot, hot studio lights. It’s not a great equation, so yeah. Some of the extras were
literally passing out from heat exhaustion and
a lack of oxygen on set. As Proft later recalled,
his son was quote, end quote. Look, this special is bad enough
on its own but knowing that it probably scarred the mind
of a child before it was even released, is just, incredible. (laughs) Honestly the more I look
into the history behind the Star Wars Holiday
Special, the more I start to genuinely love it. Don’t get me wrong, it is not good. I don’t even think it’s so bad that it’s entertaining. It is mind-numbingly dull,
but it could’ve been saved it wasn’t always this bad. Just a few years ago,
an early treatment of the Star Wars special surfaced featuring a bit of a different
take on what could’ve been. The story we almost
got, instead of the one we really wish we didn’t. The alternate treatment of
Holiday Special was discovered among Ralph McQuarrie’s
belongings after he died in 2012. It’s unclear who wrote it, but some say that it reads a lot like George Lucas. The story still centers
around Chewbacca’s family celebrating Life Day on Kashyyyk, but that’s about the extent of its similarities to
what actually aired. At least this time around,
Life Day was explained a little bit more, quote, end quote. That’s right, it’s not
just a Wookie holiday but a galactic festival. Each time it occurs, a
different planet is chosen to host Life Day, and this
time the Wookie home world is the lucky host, with Chewie being the main fuzzball of honor. Chewbacca and his family are
greeted by a traveling merchant Chewie buys a video book as a
Life Day present for his son still, still named Lumpy, so, fun. And of course that makes the
three most consistent parts of the Star Wars Holiday Special,
Wookies, Life Day, Lumpy. And look I know that Lumpy
is short for Lumpawarump, but that’s equally
silly and not a defense. Anyway, at some point Lumpy
sneaks out of the house and stows away on the merchant’s
ship while Chewie watches a rock band performance
on a Mind Evaporator. That detail of course does,
show up in the final product, but instead of Chewie using
it, it’s his father Itchy watching a very, sensual program instead. – Oh, we are excited aren’t we? – After noticing his son’s disappearance Chewbacca tracks down the
merchant, who made his way to the Mos Eisley Cantina on Tatooine that classic meetup spot
in the Star Wars universe. Too drunk to make the trip back himself the merchant agrees to
send Lumpy home aboard the Starship called the Musica, which is already headed to Kashyyyk to begin the Life Day celebrations. The way it’s described is kind of like a giant Life Day party bus in space. This is the ship that’s going
to knock the kid, uh what? This is the ship that’s going
to kick off the festivities so it’s kind of important. But here’s the thing, the
Empire sees Life Day as a threat like it could potentially unify the galaxy which might be bad for them. So, they attempt to shut
down the celebration by sending an Imperial spy to ensure that Musica, never reaches Kashyyyk. The spy, which was to be
played by some celebrity guest star, seduces the ship’s captain and starts tampering with
the ship’s power supply putting everyone aboard, in danger. Lumpy, every time I read his name I keep remembering that it’s Lumpy. Lumpy is of course one
passenger in trouble but there are two other
important characters aboard, R2D2 and C3PO. Who I guess are on the ship because of, convenience to the plot? It’s never explained, that’s pretty much par for the course. The droids report the Imperial
spy’s sabotage to Luke who in turn, alerts
Chewbacca that something weird is going on aboard the Starship. Desperate to save his son, his friends, and the entirety of Life Day, Chewie takes a shuttle to the
approaching Starship Musica takes control of the
wheel, and makes a quote perfect landing on the Wookie planet. This act of heroism earns
Chewie medals and honors, a little bit overdue, if you ask me. We got there in the end. The story wraps up by affirming that quote Aww, you know, Life Day really
got me in the end there. I don’t know about you but
that story sounds way better than what we ended up getting. Would it have been a flawless hour of TV? Probably not, there were
still weird moments like Wookies listening to Rock and Roll and boy we didn’t even
talk about the fact that the Imperial spy literally
dances through the ship. So, maybe not an all-time classic, but certainly a fun
little Star Wars adventure with a bit of surreal 70s silliness. Characters have purpose, though right? There are actual stakes
and a rising conflict and the bizarre nature
is definitely toned down at least a little bit. So why didn’t we get this story? Why was this treatment changed into? (clip) Yeah, that. Well it seems, this original
concept was molded into madness courtesy of producers
Ken and Mitzie Welch. Chewbacca was removed as a main character and the central story,
if you can call it that, was changed to be about Chewie’s family waiting on him to arrive
while keeping busy with various entertainment and activities, and that allowed for more
of those shoe-horned variety segments, instead of
one cohesive narrative. That and many other
terrible decisions led to the Star Wars Holiday
Special’s awful reception. It was instantly panned by critics and reviled by the
nation of Star Wars fans and it assembled in
the 18 months since the inital film’s release. And it lingered in the
pop cultural consensus for all of, one evening,
as Lucas’ consultant Miki Herman said quote (laughs) I’m sorry, that’s the first time I’ve read that part out loud. (laugh) Oh, wow. That is poorly timed. The special is regarded
today as one of the worst pieces of media under the Star Wars name and that, did not feel
great for George Lucas. Just before it aired,
Lucas asked for his name to be removed from the
credits of this garbage. Not that he was super attached
to the project anyway. True, some say that he saw
footage on a daily basis but it’s more than likely that
he was too busy with Empire to care about a silly little TV special. At least, until he saw
what a disaster it was. As Chris Taylor summed up in his book “How Star Wars Conquered
the Universe” quote, end quote. Many of the minds behind the
Star Wars Holiday Special clearly weren’t as concerned
with quality television as they were with keeping
the public’s interest until Star Wars Two hit theaters. And competing with the many knock-offs that were trying to cash in
on the big and small screens at the same time. It was less, do something good, and more, do something, anything. But as the original treatment shows, there was some promise to this thing. It wasn’t inherently a bad idea. It just became one thanks to
poor, conflicting direction. As a result, these days the
special stands as an odd creature representing a studios
hasty and unnecessary grab for continued relevance in the wake of a pop culture phenomenon. But at least, makes for
an interesting story. – Happy Life Day everyone. (Wookie sound) – Oh boy, there are so many details we didn’t even cover here. Check the sources in the description, for a ton of further reading
and first-hand accounts, but I want to know what you guys think. Also, what do you think of the original treatment that was scrapped? Would that have been interesting to see? And not to keep the
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100 thoughts on “The Forgotten Alternate Draft of the STAR WARS Holiday Special…

    1) There's SO MUCH info we never got to mention! Please feel free to comment things like, "I can't believe you didn't mention ______!!!"
    2) This is our last big video this year. Some smaller ones coming, but I hope you really love this one. It was a lot of fun to make!
    3) There are lots of sloppy editing errors in this because I'm traveling for the holidays and only have access to my super old, slow laptop. Didn't have time to re-edit, unfortunately.

  2. Hidden inside a smartphone, the bustling city of Textopolis is home to all emojis.each emoji has only one facial expression, except for Lumpy… And that is the starting premise of my star wars holiday special

  3. I'd pretty much steal the Nightmare Before Christmas script and replace them all with Star Wars characters. But I might be on crack.

  4. So much padding and repetitive mugging in this video. Was that the point? To try and mimic the obnoxiousness of the Holiday Special itself? If so, kudos on the meta accomplishment.

  5. Did anyone ever think of this?
    -Although CRISIS ON EARTH X (crossover), CW's show aired on  November 27, 2017 – It was well known that on April 1, 2015, production began for Barry and Iris's wedding day.
    -The Texas church shooting did, in fact, occur (22) days before the show aired, which took place on November 5, 2017.  This would only prove to show what the insiders of the Crisis on Earth X crossover show had in store when an official tweet was released for the show's start date on SEPTEMBER 22, 2017 – 44 days before the mass shooting.  So we can only conclude that people, who were following this major hit TV show, had, in advance, a psychological awareness of woes to come.  Therefore, this episode was a direct blueprint scenario, when the unlearned population participated and engaged to what can be familiarized as a form of Predictive Awareness.

  6. The holiday special subverted expectations and went in a bold new direction. You just didn't understand it. You must hate diversity. And women.

  7. Life Day is massive in swtor ;p also, I thought everyone liked the Boba Fett … Heavy Metal… cartoon? Could have been good, just needed a coherent, focused, and simple plot to cram in that tiny amount of time.

  8. Episode IX should end with a CGI aged Carrie Fisher singing her Life Day song as the credits roll.

    I actually remember watching the holiday special when it originally aired. We basically waited to see Luke show up, but when it became clear he wasn’t going to really be involved in the “story” we lost interest and switched away from the show.

    I didn’t actually see the whole thing until I was an adult. Yeah it somehow manages to be both extraordinarily bizarre and soul-crushingly boring. If you’ve never seen it…count yourself lucky.

  9. Tragically hilarious conspiracy that the Stars Wars Christmas Special may have actually caused the Jonestown Massacre

  10. I'd have loved to see a sequel with the new cast. Just as cheesy, but this time well written, as the original. Almost like a Star Wars Sitcom. I could definitely John Boyega being up for a silly treatment of Star Wars (all non-canon of course)

  11. I amazed at how much of the commentary and quotes from the last several minutes of this vid could also apply to the Last Jedi. Thank you Scott and crew for another great vid.

  12. The prequels have some value so most fans still appreciate them. The Holiday Special is awful garbage that we can all agree was a mistake. It's a surprise that it didn't end star wars at all

  13. The Star Wars Holiday Special was the worse thing in the Star Wars franchise. Then, lo (very low) and behold, Darth Bimbo (Kathleen Kennedy) barfs up The Last Jedi with its stupid SJW and feminist crap agenda behind it. So, I guess TSWHS doesn't have to hold the title of worst Star Wars thing ever created any longer

  14. Still sounds terrible. Yes, inherently bad concept. George Lucas is a hack who wrote and directed exactly 1 good Star Wars movie.

  15. My family was out to eat when the special aired, and we got home just after. I always looked forward to the rerun. I finally saw it a year or so ago by finding the bits here on Youtube.

    So, Han was married to a Wookie, but Lucas had him hitting on Leia in tESB?

    Wait, was Panda Baba actually a female, and Dr Whatsisface's wife? Or Dr Whatsisface could be Dr Whatsherface? Or maybe Panda and the Doc were queer.

  16. If I can get a supporting crew who's up for it, I'm up for making a proper Star Wars Special. With the luxury of an extended universe both in movie, TV, book and game format, there should be enough to draw from to make a good show. The Star Wars fans and franchise deserves a good special. Not breaking any great boundaries like the new movies are, but a good show with a decent amount of lore loyalty.

  17. Ugh…I remember watching this on TV as a child and I thought back then that it was crap….and I LOVED the Stars Wars movie!

  18. Could now a days create something in CGI that would be something like that a story of the life day in the galaxy far far a way but with better story writing dialogue and a sense timeline something to do right about it and i was thinking why not the whole franchese we seen the story arc so far we seen where directors have gone wrong and how we would see the Star Wars we live in would have play leave the good stuff but take the bad one out tell it better tell is with sense add a good writhing crew knowing the whole plot adds twist and turns better dialogs a new cast or CGI no matter. That team could do the Anaking turn evil in a more slow pace something that goes and you end up say i would have gone to the Dark Side too if that happend to me they could do the right thing for the franchese correct the deaths of heroes and explaing a bit more in detail how the force works Example i would not mind a force shield sorrounding Leia when she does a force push in to the ship and the air locks could get open because of that force that would take to much mind power to pull but she could thing like that.

  19. Man, I'd have KILLED to see that other version get made. Instead we got what I can only assume is exactly like an LSD trip.

  20. so do Cookies have a regular Dick or a red rocket dog Dick does this cookie bible finally answer this very important question

  21. The holiday special also introduced the snuggy which Chewie had a long standing endorsement with a life time supply of snuggies.

  22. Also I think the Ewok movies had an alright idea going for them but ultimately failed it just needed to be something that didn't feel like this, and in my opinion the Ewok films are vastly superior to the holiday Special, not that that's saying much.

  23. 2:19 "…it was the first onscreen appearance of the Wookiee homeworld of 'Ka-sheikh' or 'Cashick' or however you pronounce that…"

    Kashyyyk is pronounced like "Ka-sheikh" in "Revenge of the Sith," but it was pronounced "Ka-zook" in the Holiday Special itself, interestingly enough. Especially since, as noted, this was the first appearance of the world, and the first use of the name.

  24. One of my college teachers actually wrote on this special. The treatment sounds about right. I don't think it could ever to be good, but they thought it will be at the time. A good amount of what you said seemed to be true with what I remember him talking about it. You'd think the single camera director and crew would just use a single camera for convenience, but I think there was a whole union thing forcing them to do multicamera.

  25. I can remember I was coming up on age 5 when this got broadcasted. I had seen A New Hope the year before, so my brothers and I all eagerly watched it. My only memory of watching it was seeing Chewbacca with his family, and I figure at that age I get a pass if I liked it. It's a blur, but I have to chuckle at it now.

  26. I was 15 when it aired. I liked Art Carney in it. Hated Harvey Korman. His attempt at comedy failed. His cooking sketch ran way too long and was anything but funny.

  27. They could have stuck Han Solo and Chewbacca in a mockup of the cantina set and have them reminisce about past adventures, which they could then cut to vignettes or follow other people into their own stories. You could have the Wookiee story, a Rebel story, the looming presence of the Imperials with a wraparound story of why Han and Chewie are in the bar anyway. There is so much potential to make little vignettes, like The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror or Futurama's Anthology of Interest.

  28. This is a family holiday special where we have to watch Chewbaca's father watch porn, let the full horror of that statement sink in for a minute.

  29. One thing I’ll say about Carrie wanting to sing it might’ve stemmed from her performances onstage with her mother years before Star Wars.

  30. Alan Ladd Jr. believed in Star Wars so much, that he ended up having to resign as head of 20th Century Fox because he backed all of Lucas’s ideas.

  31. It's just so fascinating to me to think of the public and artistic perception of television back then, and how it's completely changed in just about fifty years to be almost opposite of where it was. The way they made TV back then seems alien to me, unique, and strange. It wanted to rely on the fourth wall of theater, while having the composition of film. The way they clung to that seems alien now, with the way we make film and what's considered good TV now being something like Breaking Bad and True Detective and shooting on-site being the way things go is so contrary to the fear of a full-3D set is insane. It almost makes you feel like the Star Wars folk were way ahead of the curve and ready to do something interesting, but the structure of TV production at the time just wasn't ready for it.

  32. I am (sadly) old enough to remember this special on its premiere run. Much of the embarrassment really stems from the very dated concepts of the variety show of the 1970s, and the limited television production values of the time. Seriously, if you recall what was pushed for TV in the mid to late '70s, you'll get what I mean. It's aged far worse than the original super Budget status of the original Star Wars trilogy. There's no Special Edition version of the Holiday Special, to look at it one way.

  33. Having grown up as part of the first wave of fans of Star Wars, I wouldn't undo the holiday special as it's just part of the whole history. Part of loving Star Wars was accepting the parts of it that were, admittedly, dumb. But, if I were forced to go back and didn't really know about this, and had no idea how Star Wars lore would one day go, and was given free reign to make a holiday special (and could ensure good production quality), I would have a series of shorts told by some mysterious character whose face we never see (like under a cloak) with ideas like this (be kind please):

    A bounty hunter tracking his mark through a bazaar scene on a planet (maybe even Tatooine) where he (or she) ultimately catches them in a cantina.

    A freighter carrying a mysterious cargo to a buyer the crew has never met.

    An animated short telling the story of a once legendary, but now forgotten, old Jedi knight (and only revealing the slightest hint of lore).

    Maybe a sad tale of a droid who has lived for a couple hundred years who keeps waiting on his owner to return (and has no conception of time).

    Someone in previous comments had a great idea, inspired by the Christmas truce but with life day.

    Stories like that, and possibly many others, I think would have made for a bang up special.

  34. I watched the holiday special in 1978. It was weird but we were more tolerant of lower production values and variety show conventions. It was better than nothing, was the attitude.

  35. 10:40 Imagine being the person who found this treatment. The finished product has been a black spot on the franchise for so long, and then… you find these papers. Oh no, not this thing- wait, what’s this? This is… different? Better, even? This must be an early draft…

    You have to show this to the others.

  36. Scott: they thought three years was too long for a sequel

    Me: thinks of incredibles 2 3 years hah try waiting 14

  37. While the unused treatment would have been better, let's remember that a hard kick to the nuts would have been better than what we ended up with.

  38. You’d think that the moment you realise that you are writing a bible for a fictional, furry alien for your fictional universe you would just stop on instinct because of how ridiculous it is.

    Not George Lucas apparently.

  39. so…chewie finally got recognizition for his heroism….and that script got canned? BUT….i am so sure they are gonna kill him off on episode 9….YEAH, MAKES SENSE. a perfect way to celebrate a heroic character…right?

  40. It was still better than the last Jedi. Yeah I said it. At least it has a consistent tone. And it got turned to crap because of production interference as opposed to a pretentious filmmaker that basically wanted to give the fanbase the middle finger to the fanbase

  41. I would believe that George Lucas is the type of person to not check with friends or family when he has an idea. As in, “Does this sound like good idea to you?” never comes up in any conversation he might have.

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