The Future of Flying – Is Sustainable Air Travel Possible?

The Future of Flying – Is Sustainable Air Travel Possible?


– I’m in the KLM hangar here. This is a Dreamliner. (dramatic music) Thanks for having me on the
Dreamliner cockpit here. – This is very much a realistic idea for a new passenger aircraft. So right now we’re standing in a mock-up section of the Flying-V. – When do you expect to see the Flying-V, this model, and the reality one takes off? Welcome on board. My next stop is Amsterdam. (upbeat music) So I just arrived in Amsterdam here at the KLM Engineering Service, to learn about what KLM’s doing to sustain the future of aviation. So Ramona, what are we going to see today of what you guys have done so far? – Yeah, so today I’m going
to explain you a bit more about what our stability
approach in general. Then we will show you
3D printing initiative with recycled materials. You will talk with our fuel director on sustainable aviation fuel. Then you will see one of our pursuers talking about our closed loop initiative. And you will see a pilot
talking about efficiency. And I think tomorrow you’ll also go to technical university in Delft. – Right.
– About our Flying-V project. (upbeat music) – Hi there.
– Hello. – Hello. – I’m Ranette (inaudible last name) . – Very tall. – (laughing) It’s true. Welcome to the Engine Services Makerspace. Where, this is one out
of eight innovation hubs where we do 3-D printing and
engineering and maintenance. – [Sam] I have no understanding,
what’s 3D printing. So, show me what you guys doing. – [Ranette] So what we’re
printing here are aircraft tools, that are tools that support the maintenance process of our aircraft. This is a fan blade cover. And if you are sending
in front of an engine, you’ll see a lot of these blades. And during the maintenance process, we need to shot peen them. So we started thinking how can we use 3D printing
as a method to create tools that make the maintenance process faster, safer, or more durable? At this moment we did a pilot of one week where we used all the PET plastic waste of one week of our operation, to create 150 kilos of filament. So one week gives you 150 rolls of these. (upbeat music) – So Sam, here’s a table we made for the new KLM Headquarters. It’s made out of recycled plastic, and is made by topology optimization. You can see here with a special
type of support down here, it’s calculated to reduce waste material. and it’s supposed to be able to
support about 150 kilogrammes. – Right, So it’s made from plastic bottles to make furniture.
– Yep. – A table for the KLM Headquarter. – Definitely yeah.
– 150 kilo, I’m about that. (laughs) Let me do a stress test on your product. – Yeah, very stable, I sit on, oh boy, I heard a crack. (both laughing) How many hour it took you to develop this? – To print it, it took about
240 hours I think, so– – 240 hours?
– Yeah, just to print it. – This is all, a man’s, the
machine is doing by itself. – Yeah the machine, you programme it in and then it prints it out for you. (upbeat music) – All right so what I actually
made here was uh the KLM 100 gear house and I made
it specially for you. – Wow! – With the material from
the recycling uh plant. – My God. What is really cool I’m uh
absolutely stunned because 3-D printing can make just like the
uh original look of the dull blue house this is almost
the same shape, but this is created by recycled products. – Indeed. – You know. Wow. – So that could be your pet
bubble that you use one time in the KLM flight. – (laughing) That’s really
cool. Thank you so much. This is a great idea, brilliant. (upbeat music) I’m in the KLM hangar here this
is a Dreamliner I’m going to go inside a 787 Dreamliner
to discover and learn a bit more about sustainability
inside this Dreamliner. (upbeat music) So, I got onboard the Dreamliner
and in the galley here Purser Mio and two ladies heres
going to explain to me that showing me their latest KLM
recyclable products will be used onboard. So Mio can you
explain a bit more about what’s behind this and how you
came up with this idea? – [Mio] Normally this items
are uh uh thrown away after the flight. – Yeah. – And now we collected all items from four flights from Vancouver
to Amsterdam, cleaned it recycled it, and used it
again on the flight from Amsterdam to Vancouver. So, we
didn’t throw it away we used the material again. – You recycle all the stuff
from the flight, from Vancouver and then used them again
after recycling these are the new products and on the
flight back to Vancouver? – Yes. – This is what you have done, yeah? – Yeah, yes. Uh we save the meal main
meal uh dish the salad bowl, the glass and the cutlery. – I want to check your cutlery
because your cutlery’s metal ’cause you can wash them? – (inaudible) uh plastic. – Plastic. – Plastic, plastic yeah. – Yes, so why you use plastic
’cause I thought plastic is uh harmful to the uh environment? – Well if you throw it away in nature – Uh-hu. – It’s harmful. – Okay. – The three uh use it again.
We wash it and clean it. – You wash the plastic and reuse them? – Yes for for this test flight
to Vancouver it is a really good quality so we can
wash it and use it again. – What’s the feedback so
far? Do the passenger notice the difference or? – Yes we made an announcement. – Um. – Uh in which we explained
what we are doing and they reacted very energetic. – Passengers help us with
separating the plastic when we uh on the European flight for
example come by to collect all the plastic waste we
separate the bottles and the cans from the meal boxes and
they actually help us. – Really? Wow! – So uh it becomes easier for us to do it. – That’s great to hear.
Wish more airlines doing the same thing. – Look at the carpet. – Yeah. What’s wrong with the carpet? – If you look at the carpet
you look at the blue and the blue in my uniform. – Hm. – Do you have an iead? – No idea, but, I just
see dot dot dots. But I – Well the – I don’t know. It’s all blue. – The blue that you see in
the carpet is the same blue as my uniform is actually
made from the uniforms, our old uniforms so KLM recycled it – Really – Yes, and they made carpet from it – I’m also going to try out
your new seats here on the 787 – Yeah this new – I haven’t flown the KLM
Dreamliner, yeah, good seats, huh – It’s like a small house – Oh hi, you can see yourself
here, that’s nice, very nice lik a blue house open and close like that, look at this – And you see how handsome
you are after a 24-hour flight – Oh yes, after a long
flight I became handsome (laughing) (upbeat music) – [Sam] So Captain Imervile, thanks for having me on the
Dreamliner cockpit here. So, I want to know from
a captains perspective, from a pilots perspective,
what are you guys doing to be more sustainable in aviation. – Very good question, we
can do a lot as pilots. Cause we are handling the thrust levers. We are dealing with the amount of fuel. So we can do a lot of things
and we say to our pilots, if you can burn only 50 kilos
each flight it’s nothing compared to how much fuel is in the tanks. But you add it up each
flight, each day, and at the end of the year you have a
low amount of fuel burned and therefore also CO2. And you can do, you can
postpone the moment of starting your engines. You can, when taxi in, you
can shut off one engine. So you taxi on only
one engine to the gate. Its completely safe, it’s completely okay. You save a lot of money. You can postpone your
moment of starting decent. You can postpone your
moment of setting flaps. To have less drag so to burn some fuel. – [Sam] You need to coordinate with ATC. You can’t just make a decision on your own when to start to descend
or to line up the runway. – [Captain] Yes, of course,
it’s depending on the airport you are flying to. Because John F. Kennedy,
New York is quite busy. So you’re not entitled
to have a lot of room for your decisions when you
fly, let’s say within Europe. It’s not that busy, so
you have more space. But of course even at
Skipol you can respond. If you’re always looking
for the small things to gain in the end you’ll end up with
a lot of earning on fuel. – Thank you very much for sharing all the insight with me today, thank you. – Yeah, Yeah you’re welcome.
Very good. Thank you. (upbeat music) – [Sam] But exactly is
sustainable aviation fuel? Can you explain a bit more to me? – Yeah so, sustainable
aviation fuel for us is fuel that is made from waste
products and converted into a fuel which is comparable
to the normal fuel. – [Sam] Cause I’ve heard a lot
of people mentioning bio fuel and also people talk about synthetic fuel. So is this all sustainable aviation fuel you’re trying to take? – Not really, bio fuel we
see as first generation fuel. Which is created from
our palm oil or soy oil and there we see a
sustainability challenge. Because, the farmers there
are cutting down forests to create the palm plantations
and that’s something we do not like. We didn’t want to focus on waste streams and waste cooking oil. Then you have synthetic
oil, which is something where you take CO2 out of
the air and convert that into a sustainable aviation fuel. The challenge there is
energy that is required and also the price. The price is two to two and a half times expensive as normal fuel. It’s also 10 years away
because it’s a big challenge to get the price down and to have enough factories in the world because
there aren’t enough now. And they’re also at a study phase. There are still a lot
of challenges to be met. (upbeat music) – [Sam] Wow! Look at this, a very
unconventional futuristic design of the aeroplane. A V-shaped fuselage,
engines mounted at back. Not the round fuselage
conventional design. I’m at the TU Delf. Delf University of
Technology here in Colon. Malcolm, thank you very
much for inviting me here. – Thank you – Tell me more about this flying V. Is this really a realistic idea or is this just someone’s sci-fi
idea on the drawing board? – [Malcolm] This is very much
a realistic idea for a new passenger aircraft. So with this concept, it’s
based on the A350 design. It also carries 315 passengers and flies 5,000 nautical miles. With the design of the aircraft,
purely from this V-shaped and being a flying wing,
from all of those benefits we are able to save 20 percent fuel and respect to the A350. – [Sam] So Malcolm, looking
at this electric fin engine it can power the model, right? But what about the real
1-to-1 scale powering? – [Malcolm] Currently, for the design we are using the engine from the A350 so that’s a big turbo fan
engine that runs on carnosine. That 20 percent reduction comes purely from the aerodynamics
and not from an improved engine technology. So the unconventional V design. And in future, we are looking
at other engine options such as synthetic fuel, hydrogen, or maybe hybrid electric aircraft. But once the technology
improves and it becomes ready for that kind of integration we can also integrate that into it. – [Sam] So Malcolm, I
guess the big question is When do you expect to see
the flying V, this model and the reality when one takes off? – [Malcolm] This model once
we are finished building it we’ll fly later this year then
we’re going to take the test flying and check all the
aerodynamics of this model. But then the results of that
will be used to carry on the design which will still take
quite a long time because there is a long design road ahead. So we hope that between 2035
to 2040 that the full scale design will be finished
where the passengers can then go and enjoy the flying V. But for the moment I invite
you to go and checkout we have a mock-up of the full-scale cabin. So then you can also see
what the passenger experience in that new cabin and the
oval section because there’s also different seating
options and different comfort ideas for the passengers
and also how to improve the passenger experience in the Flying V. (upbeat music) – So right now we are
standing in a mock-up section of the Flying V. This is the same width as A350 Airbus. – Okay And what you have to imagine right now is we have economy class and
we have different solutions for more comfort in economy
class in the Flying V. Now the one thing you’re not seeing which is our centre piece
are the staggered seats. Which make sure that you sit in the direction of which
you fly, which is nice. But we have some other very cool concepts that we’d like you to see. – [Sam] I’m seeing there are
people here, trying out, right – There’s people here. – Designer, right? – We have some design students and they can tell you a
little bit more about each individual concept for economy. – Oh yeah it really fits
four people here, right. This is like the good ole
days when aviation when they fly the plane all along those
planes used to fly very slow and they need time to do like
this family time together. – [Woman] With this you can allow people to sit more closely to each
other and it’s actually taking the same space
as two rows of seats. – [Sam] Right, it’s jus two row. One row there and one row. But we’re just facing each
other that’s all it is. Just reverse the seats
and you create a good family area or a social area. – Yeah, exactly. – Pretty cool, pretty cool. – So I don’t quite get it,
this is like one is higher and they look like a swing here. And one is lower. So, is that going to be staggered like high low, high low, like this? – Yes, exactly like that. It will be staggered,
the idea is we staggered high low, high low, because this way the seat itself can change
into about 3 positions. You can slide under and be
very comfortable laying. – Like this guy. – You could sit up normally
or you can even stand and lean for a bit. – Ah okay, you can stand and lean. – Because the number one priority is to change your position every hour change your position a bit. That way you don’t get those tired legs. – [Sam] You see it’s like
you have a lot of head room to utilise. – Head room to utilise and
you have room underneath in this specific position. – [Woman] This is actually three beds. (inaudible mumble) In research
say that 60 percent wants to sleep on a haul flight. So we were thinking
how can we enable that. With these three beds we can
allow three persons to sleep and during take-off and landing, of course people have to be able
to sit in a seatbelt. So, therefore the lowest
bed can be folded. Then three persons can
sit next to each other in the seatbelt. – We’re listening to
her idea but we’re also proving this idea. So this worked. So during take-off and
landing we’ll sit here and after take-off we go into our bed. That’s pretty cool. Is this actually economy class? Or you don’t have economy class. This is all one? – This is really to enable
economy class to be able to sleep as well with the same price. – Wicked idea. This would be a winner, realy. After take-off go straight,
there’s a person there. I was thinking I was touching
someone’s feet there. (laughing) (upbeat music) Thank you so much Captain
and everyone showing me the environment
initiative KLM is taking. I know this is KLM 100
birthday this year and I wish KLM many many more
hundreds birthdays to come. (group cheer)

100 thoughts on “The Future of Flying – Is Sustainable Air Travel Possible?

  1. Just to give you some background in this vlog. When I was traveling to Amsterdam in December (before flying Xiamen Air to China) I saw how sustainability as a much discussed topic. I contacted KLM, a leader in this field if they can show me what they've done so far and what they are planning to do for the future. This is the first vlog in the series to explore and learn about sustainability in aviation. I will look at other airlines during the year to see many different approach and initiatives in this relatively new field.

  2. Is nobody going to talk about the fact that Sam was at the Boeing 777X's first flight, and that should be the next video?

  3. Gets shown prototype table made from thin filament

    Sam: Can I sit on it?

    Engineer: Scared for his job if it breaks!

  4. давайте просто блядь представим ситуацию, все современные аэропорты заточены под самолеты классической компоновки..
    концепт данного самолета обречен на провал, во первых вот почему, данная схема расположения двигателей затеняется самим фюзеляжем..
    если это электрик повер энжинс, тогда откуда столько энергии? где она храниться? в борту.. тогда что это будет? литий он или что то другое? если литий, то тогда покажите испытания краштеста и схему расположения этих батарей, уверен во время жесткой посадки они будут принимать удар на себя ибо они самый тяжелый элемент который должен распологаться внизу..
    поскольку данная модель самолета является крыловидным, я имею ввиду фюзеляж ввиде крыла, самолет обречен на постоянные турбулентности и проблемы в пилотировании поскольку даже незначительное отклонение = штопор, ротация и одному инженеру известно что еще
    допустим, все вышесказанное мною будет соблюдено и давно инженерами продумано, тогда идем дальше
    новая схема фюзеляжа предполагает новую схему аэродинамической модели, новые риски которые не знают инженеры, и куда страшнее пилоты..
    к тому же несовершенная система автопилота ухудшит подобную ситуацию
    ни одна авиакомпания не пойдет на столь невероятные риски ради 20% экономии топлива, безопасность кэ и паксов превыше всего.. и пассажиры за это платят прежде всего
    поэтому засуньте себе этот блядь треугольник себе в жопу блядь и не ебите мозги людям своей рекламой ебаной клм сука,

  5. Great. More global warming BS.

    Seriously, if you believe that global warming is a huge problem and aviation is a big part of the problem, then there is NO reason for you to fly. Put your money where your mouth is.

  6. don't see the v shape turning into a commercial plane, will be difficult to manoeuvre, difficult to fly , difficult to land, and a ultimately a nightmare for airports because they will take up way too much space, not to mention will be difficult to pass safety regulations especially when the v shape would make emergency landings difficult….the only way it can work is if it had a vertical take off LOL

  7. I literally have a video above this talking about the China outbreak with the unknown disease and then I see a video of planes for the future could you like not go on planes

  8. If we are concerned about sustaintability, do we really need to travel between countries? If you are concerned about environment, just don't travel. That's it.

  9. All good, but reusing cutlery instead of recycling(If heard ryt) them may not be a thing.. scientifically may be hygienic but still may not give that positive feeling when practically using it..😊

  10. Hi,I am watching your videos since along time I wanted to tell u that chui means female mouse in urdu and hindi so change your last name

  11. The worst offenders that cause disastrous mass killing effects of climate overheating are international first and business class flyers. A single roundtrip flight in business class contributes the same amount of carbon as driving a gigantic Hummer SUV for a whole year. Such flyers are not just hedonists, they are simply evil.

  12. Flying, one of the most emitting things. But klm is recycling plastic, so now they are good for the environment? nice try, but prefer to work on things that can really make a difference.

  13. Interesting but not practical
    All those Windows would need to be Strong as the Windshield= very Heavy
    Those cubyhole sleepers would never work
    And the pasengers practicaly siting in the Wings is IDIotic,
    in turns it would feel like being on rollercoaster
    I rate it DOA

  14. Hello Sam:
    Great video. A+.
    I heard your voice, when I was watching live stream of the Boeing B777X first test flight at the Paine Airfield on Friday, Jan 23.
    When the first test flight got canceled due to high winds and inclement weather.
    You said that that weather is getting bad and hail falling from sky.

  15. RE: To enable air transport being sustainable.

    The magnet motor for this 1300hp/1-Mw genset is small, 2'x7"/61x17cm, going in aircraft, sparkless.

    Losing -10%flux/1000yrs it has a "50-year no-inputs warranty" for 24×7 power.

    At zero gas and little wasteheat emissions a tiny carbon-footprint so doesn't inject CO2 directly into the stratosphere & expose chemtrails immediately …

    Flip offgrid, 1-Mw•1300hp magnet motor a 17yr R&D; technokontrol.com, RF-5000.

    Homes, onsite: 10kw•$15k, 5kw•$8k $35/mo+int; "20yr wrnty"; infinitysav.com, no fuels, 24×7 power.
    Ymmv.

  16. Reality Check. NO! The continued air travel is not sustainable. If you believe in global warming, the numbers do not lie. To reduce CO2 , the amount of energy required for flight, demands the end of air travel.

  17. The only things missing in your latest videos is, when someone speaks, adding a tittle who says who's the person speaking is and what is their position/job. For the rest, your latest videos are great.

  18. Man I think you are the most successful youtuber , 600k views within 3 days ? are you kidding me? 😄😄😄 well done , great video as always

  19. Well now ik im not flying KLM Vancouver to Amsterdam…. i would understand melting plastic down and reusing but WASHING PLASTIC?!!!

  20. Happy happy joy joy? NOT commercial airlines burn about 500 million gallons of fuel each day, not to mention private and military, it is the most destructive co2 inputs in the world, worse is that spent carbon is dumped in the exact wrong place at 30,000 feet. So to pretend we can fly business as usual because a flying v will save us is grossly irresponsible. Airlines cant pretend they were not aware, this is willful negligence.

  21. Finally reuse items for food in airplanes. This a excellent news.
    By the way, congratulations for your videos, Sam Chui.

  22. One thing KLM has to take to account for the sleeping units is claustrophobia and room to move, these are great ideas but the seating arrangement are very tight.

  23. Very good .KLM doing good things we r never thought it these doing thing in videos.but I live in New York never buy KLM ticket .next may be trevel KLM.

  24. Horrible design on the v plane. Who the hell wants to face another person for a 10 hour plus flight and WTF do you think they do with their legs. If two people are facing each other where do their legs go? Are they playing footsie during the flight? Dumbest shit I've ever seen. Make those "designers" sit there for 10 hours. See how they like it!

  25. Nothing says safe travel like being seated atop a fuel tank… Nothing says comfort like being crammed into a child's seat for 8 hours. Nothing says customer care like being fed reheated Dollar Tree TV dinners. Nothing says smooth travel like a 30 minute line through TSA and airline staff who think they are FBI agents. The problem with air travel is not the technology. It's the airlines. I avoid air travel whenever possible. It's just a horrible experience overall. Why pay someone for that? I can create my own horrible experiences for free.

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